But she was unaware of her unusual heritage or her powers until tragedy struck and her father … Should have use Young Justice version aganst Raven in second round, Raven for the winner,she could use her dark powers to shut up zatanna.LOL. She summoned the spectre it's right there. I don't know why people overstimate Raven this way! 2 wins (100%) Dark Phoenix (FOX) Jean Grey: Scarlet Witch Wanda Maximoff: 3 M: team class: 3 M: 0 wins (0%) Raven (Titans) Rachel Roth: Zatanna Zatanna Zatara: 120 K: team class: 120 K: Battle options. Zatanna Zatara is the daughter of famed magician Giovanni “John” Zatara and Sindella, a member of the mystical Homo Magi race. NEXT: DC: 5 Marvel Villains Zatanna Could Defeat (& 5 … And all that kept her from doing it was her morals.   Zatanna has been able to hurt Starbreaker", "Raven's empathy isn't as powerful as J'onn's telepathy and Zatanna has been able to block him out more than one time. Raven vs Zatanna # Zatanna Zatanna is undoubtedly one of the strongest female wizards in the DC Universe. In most of her appearances she flies around and complains about psychic backlash without actually doing much. Rachel Roth, also known as Raven, is the newest member of the Teen Titans and a protegé of Zatanna Zatara. Raven for both. Still, Raven can summon Trigon. Thanks anyway. If you liked it - consider becoming my patron. Change members Create variation Info No Variations. The couple’s only child, Zatanna, was born with fantastic abilities. Zatanna basically channels the same power but in its raw form which is more powerful. @outside_85: That was to give him power. Ok if you think your scan is from the post-Infinite Crisis era, then I dare you to post the cover of the issue your scan came from. Raven was in fact a demon, and the daughter of the worst of them all. On the other hand, Zatanna's magic is instantaneous.  Â, "  Yes, it was from Coundown, but why not count is as a decent showing?  as for Animated? When she was lost to her father it took the Titans ans JLA to stop her (so no way is Zee doing it alone). And even without spectre she wins. @Zoom: That doesn't necessarily mean she thinks animated Raven is more powerful than comics raven. Her demonic heritage enables her to channel her father's power. Dismissed. She first approached the JlA to deal with her father. Zatanna vs Raven. Btw, for those who think Cyborg is a sure-fire way of putting Raven's soul-self down: Animated however...well that seems to be more the other way around where Raven usually has to say her line to focus and Zatanna is inconsistent about having to speak to activate hers. It's BS because it took her and a dozen other mages to summon him during Infinite Crisis, and besides that the spell is an undefined line: "Appear before me those who have fed too much. Raven-haired beauty Jordana Brewster was born on April 26, 1980 in Panama City, Panama. Love Interest Full Name Zatanna Zatara Nicknames Zee The Mistress of Magic Origin DC Comics Occupation Stage Magician Powers/Skills Backward Spell-Speak I think maybe still raven, "OR you could try rephrasing that so as not to sound like a complete.......". Alan scott is magic...... how does he not use magic, he's made of it? 5 days ago. Her cousin, Zachary Zatara, is also a magician. Not that Neron or Circe wouldn't kill her regardless for the affront of summoning her like that in the first place. @outside_85: Don't have the cover but it was published in 2000. Raven escaped her father's realm and yearned for a home. Anyone … ", "Can't we just say the same thing about Speedy beating Zatanna? :/ The Magic Maid FTW. Since there is no prep time, I am giving it to Raven in round on, because Zatanna is (as even Amazo knows) is limited to the fact that she has to speak before her spells takes effect and Raven does not. Raven was only using a fraction of her power whilst possessed by her soul-self to destroy Headcase, and it's absolutely possible that, at her peak, she is the most powerful member of the group. @outside_85:Is this what you are talking about? Still, Raven can summon Trigon. ", "Zatanna has been able to block attacks from super fast opponents, which are faster than Raven. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. :P. Oh that's only the end of the fight.  Speedy tackled her and kicked her butt across the bathroom.  I'm saying her mystical defenses are nonexistant because supervillains have no problem just punching her in the face all the time.  Maybe she's got protection against telepathy but she doesn't seem to have protection against anything else and even if she did, Raven's got more power than she does. What about Lobo believing that Zatanna could kill him with a single spell? Animated Raven wins the second one. ". And Raven is that powerful She killed an army of demons in three seconds and it takes the entire Titans Team to take her down everytime they fight. Or the car she just threw at her?). First of all, Raven isn't able to use raw magic. Zatanna basically channels the same power but in its raw form which is more powerful. However, since she isn't demonic, her magical connection is less natural compared to Raven's. Raven to Zatanna. Zatanna isn't going to let the fight get to a point where Scarlet Witch can overpower her. Reviews: 0. NEXT: 10 Most Powerful Female Members Of The Teen Titans. 0. Raven is a living force of demonic power and perhaps a natural meta-human as well. However, since she isn't demonic, her magical connection is less natural compared to Raven's. @outside_85: How in the world is it Bs. "Thats not summoning anything specific, it's just casting a net and see what she pulls up, could be this group which has nothing to do with feeding, or it could be 4 fat blokes from the neast McDonalds. Zatanna stare turned cold. Zatanna at a young age was trained in magic by her father. The night of the Hall of Justice's unveiling, Raven, now 14 years old, had a nightmare. Round one though, kinda tough. Her mother, Maria João Leal de Sousa, is a Brazilian-born model who appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated in 1978 .  ^ Zatanna sensed the evil in her and the JLA sent her away. She'd know just the right word to use at the right time. By telekinetically forcing Z's mouth to shut. Which btw Zatanna easily recovered herself from. Zatanna Zatara Whew! @outside_85: That was to give him power. She is also able to do telekinesis and telepathy. ", "What about Lobo believing that Zatanna could kill him with a single spell? By saying the mantra in reverse, Zatanna … Wanda is able to control weather, fly, cast illusion and make force fields. BS, it took nearly every active magician on Earth, including Zatanna, to do that in Infinite Crisis and all the Spectre did was kill a Star Sapphire and leave. Comment. I'm saying the Seven Deadly Sins don't need to be triggered.  What issue are you talking about? TheVoidofDeath. Zatanna's magic, on the other hand, is instantaneous. No, it was to summon him, because he had been missing for a year while Crispus Allen got his rear into gear. His taunt gave Raven the time to fly back around and slam feet-first into Ermac's head, cracking his jaw and temple before sending him flying into a light pole, mending it … Zatanna is a direct descendant of the artist and magician Leonardo da Vinci, and … Which btw Zatanna easily recovered herself from. Zatanna.2. Part 1. Zatanna Vs Raven. Dark Phoenix (FOX) & Scarlet Witch vs Raven (Titans) & Zatanna. ... Raven has also done this thing where she creates a circular swirling mass of shadow that she can walk through and emerge from the other … r2 - Not sure about Zatanna and Raven at their peaks but I think WPOTC will be MVP. @storm-is-life: Thanks, and thats a load of bullshit, not that it makes Zatanna more powerful than any of those aside Deadman. @Veitha:I dont dispute that Zatanna has more proven skill with her abilities, but I do dispute that she does have automated mental defences when it's not been shown anywhere that there are. But beyond that, she has an even greater ability - she's a powerful magician. DC hasn't disambiguated the extents to how much power each can conduct so we can assume it's a tie. Comic book Raven is very unpredictable and would most likely pull a win. On the other hand, Zatanna's magic is instantaneous.    ", No, we can't because that was in Green Arrow, a mediocre book but but not a terrible one.  It isn't like Winnick doesn't understand Speedy and Zatanna's abilities.  I mean, he spells them out on the page. And yeah, Zatanna recovered just fine when the teenage girl that kicked her butt let her get up.  She could have just as easily broken her collarbone.   Â,   Surely, she can release her soul self and grab Zatanna with it faster than Zatanna can cast a spell.  Even if she fails to do this, Raven's soul self can still KO Zatanna and remain active for several minutes without Raven's body being present or conscious.  More than enough time to nab Zatanna.   Yes, it was from Coundown, but why not count is as a decent showing? For Injustice 2 on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Zatanna vs Raven". Besides wasn't that dark Raven or something? At some point in her past, she met and began dating John Constantinebut for unknown reasons, their relationship was fractured resulting in them ending it, however Zatanna continued t… They both are extremely powerful and part of amazing teams. Here she take out the Justice League (including Zatanna, WW, Green Lantern etc) and mind control her own Titans team in the same time, showing them an ilusion. Why is Raven using or not magic a freacking issue? Zatanna seems to have better feats consistantly in comics. 1. Her reputation destroyed my chance to find my own happiness and it's not only this when her abuse wouldn't let me become what I am. She and Raven had been combining their powers together to tap into whatever reality altering force had been causing them to plump and swell like balloons and hopefully reverse the … by mavruda on August 29, 2020 at 11:09 am. Followers. Raven is one of the many metahuman students attending Justice Academy ,dedicated to training and caring for metas,in hopes of finding the new 'heroes of tomorrow' and keeping new super villains off the street.Lonely and lost in her own mind,Raven remains mostly in her room and withdrawn hiding the fact that she is … Raven is 10 times hotter than Starfire You can't say for sure who is hotter, because everybody has a different taste. He wasn't destroying the universe's empathy................... hun, she has no magic her powers are mystic. It think it all depends if Zattana is, or not, invulnerable/capable of defending herself against Raven's soul-self. Zatanna vs Raven! Does Raven triggering one of the seven deadly sins count as magic O__o. Wiki Points. Zatanna does have better and more consistent feats of high levels of magical powers, but this is decided by Raven simply being faster on the draw. Don't Respect Her: Blackfire. Also these are not servants she can bind to her will, she asks if they want to and if they say no she's stuffed. Raven dropped free of the spell, flying up into the sky as Ermac put his hands on his hips and let out a demonic laugh before pointing up at Raven, yelling, "You suck!" Who will win in a fight between Zatanna and Dark Raven? Zatanna can bend raw magic with her spells. ", "As for Raven's soul self, it has to manifest and then make it's way to Zatanna to do anything. Zatanna was more than aware of this. So this could go either way again depending on if Zatanna has to say a long line backwards before an effect is produced or not. ^_^, Zattana round 1 easily: " Nevar si a rettub ylf ", Roun 2 is easily ravens. Circe no longer needs to use a wand and that seems to be (based mainly on how Speedy is drawn) a scan from the 60s or 70s, a time when Wonder Woman sure as heck wasn't as powerful as Superman and her villains were all significantly weaker.  Plus, the fact that Zatanna was a bird implies that Circe defeated her first and even in the fight where Circe is defeated, the Red Tornado disarms Circe before Zatanna can do anything.  I'd hardly say that scan is evidence for Zatanna being more powerful than modern Circe (who frankly, should be able to curbstomp Zatanna and Raven at the same time).   "Countdown doesn't count" was my response to your statement that Zatanna has defeated Mary Marvel.  Since that's the period of time when Mary Marvel fought a bunch of heroes and since that's also the period of time I didn't go out of my way to pick up comics with Mary Marvel in them, I assume this fight took place in Countdown.  Countdown doesn't count because Countdown was crappy writing at its most prominent with continuity errors and mischaracterization around every turn.  If Zatanna fought and defeated Mary on a different occation, I'd be interested to see those scans. Zatanna’s father, Giovanni Zatara, was a famous performer who fell in love with a woman named Sindella, a member of a mystical race of beings known as Homo Magi. I don't get what your saying? Zatanna is a direct descendant of the artist and magician Leonardo da Vinci, and is related to Nostradamus; Alessandro Cagliostro; the noted alchemists Nicholas Flamel and Evan Fulcanelli; and Lord Arion of Atlantis. 1 Season Eleven 2 Appearances 3 In the Comics 4 Other faces of Raven Following an abduction of a teenage girl by the cult, Zatanna and John Constantine are closing in on the Church of Blood, who is preparing a final … For the show, Zatanna turns her into a bunny and uses her as a stage prop for her show on the show. Zatanna confirmed "Raven is a demon and-" "Half demon" Robin corrected her. ", " @Son_of_Magnus:  Or Zatanna teleports behind Raven and mind-wipes her. i'll say raven wins both rounds, since she is a natural, she was born with her powers. Have to agree with this....Zatanna is often underestimated. No offense but it seems ppl are getting this whole power thing wrong. She's had to think her way through way more fights than Scarlet Witch against opponents who are more powerful than her and she's usually on her own in these battles. And check out these sketches below. UNLESS: They get transported into the magical dimension where Zatanna has all the magic she needs at her disposal. That… that is… sexy. Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle. These should be saying more than words. Not to mention that Wanda has better powers such as soul manipulation, pain manipulation, probability manipulation, time … Her demonic heritage enables her to channel her father's power. Daughter of the great magician Giovanni “John” Zatara and Sindella, a member of the mystical Homo Magi race. Zatanna has a bloody seizure on the floor. Probably Raven. And all that kept her from doing it was her morals.    Zatanna has been able to hurt Starbreaker and has been able to block attacks from super fast opponents, which are faster than Raven.  Raven's empathy isn't as powerful as J'onn's telepathy and Zatanna has been able to block him out more than one time. Couldn't she just say:  "pots" immediately? May she be one-third or one-fourth demon, it did not concern her. As for the soul self, it has to manifest and then make it's way to Zatanna to do anything. Zatanna is the daughter of adventurer John Zatara and his wife Sindella, a member of the mystic tribe of sorcerers called the Hidden Ones, or Homo Mag ... (FOX) vs Team Raven (Titans) Team Dark Phoenix (FOX) vs Team Raven (Titans) Team Dark Phoenix (FOX) vs Team Raven (Titans) Superhero Class. Forum Posts.  Then it's a form of her using magic? Zatanna can bend raw magic with her spells. I do not no much of Zatannas feats but I do believe Raven would win. or "peels" - it wouldn't take her long. Superhero battle match: Zatanna versus Dark Raven. Wiz: Today we pit the two of the most deadly super-heroines against each other... Boomstick: Raven, a sorceress she-demon... Wiz: ...and Wonder Woman an Amazonian warrior. Blackfire is another archrival of the Teen Titans, … Whatever she does, it does the trick! Personally for me, Raven is 10 times hotter than Starfire. No joke. Plus that's Raven operating on story induced power levels. She's forced J'onn back given time to push, but I read that as him already being in her head before being forced back out. Animated Raven would stomp. Can't we just say the same thing about Speedy beating Zatanna? @outside_85: the reason you think its BS is because you think that comparing her infinite crisis self to a later version automatically makes her incapable which is where your wrong. 27. I'd say Zee has a good chance of winning the first fight. Its not bs because she already did it. Then about a magic confrontation, is enough to say that Raven easily take out Zatanna and usually is the only one who can tip the balance when Trigon shows up. Location: year 2020. If her powers weren't related to magic and only empathy, why would Spectre's destruction of magic affect her? This time the prize went to and her choice of Zatanna. Zatanna FTW on both fights. If i'm not wrong Zatanna has also got some mental powers so I think that she can resist to some emotional based attacks enough long to cast some spell to kill Raven... Zatanna easily wins the first battle... @Veitha: You know prof of such resistance would be nice? Zee was AFRAID of her and wouldn't let them have anything to do with her. Its not bs because she already did it. Scarlet Witch Wanda has extraordinary abilities with the number of spell she has. No offense but it seems ppl are getting this whole power thing wrong. Zatanna.She'll Just Say "Enog Eb" Or "Eid" & She'll Win. 0. As for Raven's soul self, it has to manifest and then make it's way to Zatanna to do anything. Enjoy!-----Something was very wrong. Chapter: DC. Raven's POV "I hoped this works," I thought when I didn't want to follow my mother's path after I had to deal with a horrible childhood. ", " @Renee: Zatanna has absolutely no defense against Raven's soul self...If she could sense her teleportation what is she gonna do to stop it.... ", " @Renee: Zatanna has absolutely no defense against Raven's soul self...If she could sense her teleportation what is she gonna do to stop it.... ". For the comics, I think her natural mystic defenses can block raven as they have Martian Manhunter, and she can defeat Raven by saying, well whatever does the trick lol. I think Zatanna to be honest, she's a lot more versatile and experienced. 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